Okay, ignoring your original questions until I have more time, I'll comment on your final point about the race coverage.

The newscasters have to precis the report about a race into a soundbite of a few seconds. True, it's inaccurate to say JB lost purely to his engine going boom at the end, but anyone genuinely interested in the race result would have watched the race or the highlights, and would know about the real story. The news report I saw said simply that he failed to capitalise on his pole and then his engine blew at the end, they didn't say he lost BECAUSE of it.

OK, my responses inline

Karen wrote Ok this is a poll open to men and  women on here...some men  might want to agree with things or who knows disagree with things ( would like to think that ladies on here will agree with me though :o) ) Q1... Are men useful??

Dunno about the other men, but I find myself EXTREMELY useful

Q2..  DO men ever consider womens feelings?

The word 'ever' in the question allows me the straight answer : YES !

(Even if it has only happened once in a gazillion years, my answer would be correct)

Q3...If men know they have done something  REALLY wrong... and they dont try to make amends are they arse's?

Yes, of course, and women are, too in the same situation - what's the big deal ?

Q3... which is worse..... to cheat on someone...to lie to someone ..to take advantage of someone ( to the extremes of doing things a woman doesnt want them to do )

To take advantage of someone is definitely the worst thing you can do

Q4....  Which is worse in  men - those that drink  or those that take substances that is not legal ( lets say )

Those that drink !

I know what I am talking about - have known both sorts

Q5.....which is the laziest sex - male or female?

I don't think laziness can be defined by the sex of somebody

Ok..for some this might be  fun ...for some it might be something more ...  but the more I look at things ( ie this  Robbie debate)  it just made me wonder  do men know ANYTHING   LOL....  I mean  even on the news  JUST they said that Butty missed out on his first win cos of an engine failure.....!!!  AM I missing something but wasnt he in about SIXTH place when his engine went  LOL...  Guess what - all the commentators are men ( ok  apart from Louise Goodman) and it was a male newcaster....  I  rest my case !!

So what is the big deal ?

Blobby is an arse !